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> U.s.a. Politica Noului Presedinte B.h. Obama, Discutii despre politica americana sub administratia Obama
turbo trabant
mesaj 16 Feb 2010, 01:07 PM
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o noua revolutie in america: tea party.


primul articol scris de democrati in care isi dau seama ce greseala au facut ca au incercat sa rada de oamenii astia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/us/polit...wanted=1&hp

la revedere democrati !


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Presedintele Obama si partidul sau sunt pe cale sa piarda un loc de senator in California, stat care l-a ales pe presedinte cu 61 % din voturi . Situatia asta indica ceva.
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mesaj 16 Feb 2010, 08:27 PM
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e un interviu interesant azi cu john podesta , democrat si mare scula pe vremea lui clinton si mare fan al lui lumumba, zice cam asa: the us political system is in big trouble si lumumba e ineficient

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/...ohn_podesta_ob/


talking about a revolution......

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QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 16 Feb 2010, 08:27 PM) *
talking about a revolution......

nu stiu ce sa zic? a vorbi despre "revolutie" in USA e ca si cum ai vorbi despre involutie. eu cel putin nu vad cum ar putea sa revolutioneze cel mai "eficient" sistem capitalist. dar sa faci "revolutie" in USA ? ce poate fi mai frumos pentru guevaristi, castristi or mai nou chavezisti, un vis la care nu ar fi avut curajul sa se gandeasca nici M.L.K. poate evolutie ar fi mai nimerit decat revolutie.


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nici vorba de chestiile enumerate. oamenii de rand vor un stat mai mic, taxe mai mici , cheltuiala cu cumpatare a banului public.

adica exact ce Nu face acum washingtonul si nu a facut de multa vreme. e washington vs we the people si nu pariez pe washington.

daca lucrurile merg cum trebuie us vor avea parte de nou Reagan sau Roosevelt la puterea a doua.


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QUOTE(turbo trabant @ 16 Feb 2010, 08:54 PM) *
oamenii de rand vor un stat mai mic, taxe mai mici , cheltuiala cu cumpatare a banului public

asta doreau si cetatenii romani acum 2000 de ani, pentru mine este ca un dejavu.


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Mai oameni buni, cât timp tâmpitii aia cheltuiesc miliarde de dolari pe zi pentru razboi, nu-i vorba de democratie, aici e imperialism.
Fain numa' ca miliardele alea nu le au pentru oamenii lor de rând, care nu-si pot plati o zi la spital.


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e democratie pentru cei din sfera de influenta a lor. pentru dasteptii care e tari si se ia in gura cu us a e principalul furnizor de bombe/ turban extremist.

simplu.

ps: nu mai crede chestia cu sistemul american de sanatate e varza, e ok , nici prea -prea nici foarte-foarte. erau unii destepti care chiar credeau ca moartea domnului lazarescu s-a filmat in america smile.gif.


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ok, rusii au facut prima miscare contra scutului. I-au tras de sub nas tratatul de reducere al armelor nucleare , un proiect atat de drag laureatului nobel pentru pace.

sa il vedem pe Lumumba daca e Lumumba sau Mr. President.


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Un american disperat s-a aruncat cu avionul într-o cladire a fiscului.
Mesajul asta l-a lasat în urma:

"If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer... and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a f**k about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy f**k up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed."


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O gluma care circula printre americani :

Remember when Ronald Reagan was president, we also had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash still with us....

Now we have Obama but no hope and no cash.
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de citit , se explica in termeni non-tehnici de ce romania a fost aleasa pentru scut

Unul dintre motivele evidente este acela ca Romania se afla pe ruta dintre Iran si Europa si este o locatie ideala din care sa incerci sa interceptezi orice potential atac iranian cu rachete impotriva Occidentului.

http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-international-...association.htm


in continuare raman la parerea ca programul iranian avanseaza mult mai rapid decat crede administratia Lumumba si ca urmare planul va fi inutil.


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Lumumba va anunta in curand o reducere masiva a armelor nucleare americane. daca nu a semnat cu rusii ceva reciproc ,va fi unilaterala.

way to go, musiu nobel, SIGUR va intra in istorie ca cel mai pacifist prezident daca o face unilateral.



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Deh, stii cum e asta cu unilateralul si cu armele nucleare. Nu mai avem arme ca sa distrugem planeta de 100 de ori, ci doar de 10 ori....


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Sau avem conventionale la fel de puternice.


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@blakut: probabil gigi duru va dori sa implineasca unilateral tratatul de reducere al armelor nucleare chit ca rusii nu il vor semna. probabil la vreo 1500 de warheads.

va fi foarte aplaudat de rusi si chiar de chinezi care se vor trezi cu un cadou pe masa: paritatea nucleara.

@marduk: nu exista conventional la fel de puternic ci doar wishful thinking la mr. lumumba . make peace not war.


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nu exista conventional la fel de puternic

Eu cred ca bombele conventionale au devenit la fel de distrugatoare, datorita IA, pot lovi cu acurateta de cativa metri, pot patrunde in beton, sunt curate. Cand Bush la amenintat pe presedintele pakistanez Musharraf ca USA poate trimite Pakistanul in preistorie, nu s-a referit la arsenalul nuclear ci la cel conventional.


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da, precizia este mai mare. puterea exploziva insa nu va fi niciodata.

as fi fost de acord cu lumumba pe tema asta daca si rusii si chinezii reduceau iar ahmi incasa o conventionala pentru incercare. asa, e patetic.

daca anuleaza armele nucleare din europa, e za man forever. rusii or sa fie mai rosii in obraji ca niciodata si nu de la vodca smile.gif.


ps: chinezii au anuntat acum 2 saptamani ca isi vor inmulti armele nucleare pentru a contracara scuturile americane. way to go, lumumba , u are za man....


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da, precizia este mai mare. puterea exploziva insa nu va fi niciodata.

puterea distructiva este diferenta, atomicele sunt arme de distrugere in masa, dar azi si clasicele sunt la fel de bune numai ca trebuie sa folosesti mai multe bombe in loc de una, dar ai dreptate nu pot fi comparate ca putere de distrugere.


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as adauga factorul teroare: una este sa spui lui ahmi ca va incasa o conventionala in cap ( = martir), alta e sa ii spui ca se va praji si el si cateva milioane de cetateni la vreo cateva mii de grade. garantat un ahmi se pipileste pe el la varianta a 2 -a.

cine stie, poate lumumba va da surplusul nuclear iranului sa ii ajute in "cercetari nucleare". poate nu e dracu chiar atat de negru si gates ii pune un pic piedica primului pacifist al planetei...

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Clipul asta e tare de tot ! biggrin.gif

Este Obama un Avatar ??!!
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tot congresul (democrati si republicani) i-a sarit in cap lui obramburel cu prostia de buget nasa pe care a propus-o si care duce la distrugerea nasa si la vreo 23.000 de locuri de munca pierdute aiurea. raspunsul lui obramburel? va explica laiv pe tivi bugetul intr-o conferinta.

baiatul asta nu a auzit de feedback si e alice in tara minunilor.


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Pariu ca propune amartizarea?


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Fara programul lunar amartizarea nu se poate realiza in conditii optime. Pe luna ar trebui instalate relee de comunicatie, o baza permanenta, etc. Nu stiu ce are in cap Obama dar pare ca NASA are un buget enorm iar presiunea exercitata de investitorii in domeniul spatial este enorma, eu cred ca se doreste desfiintarea monopolului spatial al NASA. Daca acest lucru se va realiza vom vedea o dezvoltare frenetica a domeniului spatial privat, similara cu dezvoltarea aviatiei in a doua parte a secolului XX.


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Au fost pe Luna odata. Mi se pare normal sa tinteasca spre Marte, folosind experienta acumulata in timpul programului Apollo.


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Au fost pe Luna odata. Mi se pare normal sa tinteasca spre Marte, folosind experienta acumulata in timpul programului Apollo.


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Sau nu.


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QUOTE(Blakut @ 9 Mar 2010, 07:18 PM) *
Pariu ca propune amartizarea?

nu, ca sunt de acord cu tine. e atat de dobitoc incat sa anunte planurile spre marte dupa ce a taiat orice fonduri legate de asta si a trimis la gunoi singura racheta capabila sa trimita nave spatiale cu echipaj uman pana pe luna sau marte: ares V. era singurul heavy lifter dupa saturn 5 si l-a trimis la la gunoi dupa ce a fost realizat 50%.

nu e jfk, e opusul lui, un tantalau care stie sa dea din gura, plin de el si lipsit de orice simt managerial.

ce va face nasa daca ii iese lui abramburel pasenta va fi sa "cerceteze" noi metode de propulsie in spatiu dar zboruri nema. teorie si ioca practica. o nu va suplimenta bugetul decat pentru cercetarea incalzirii globale, cum deja a facut-o.

nasa a murit. si este prea devreme ca sectorul privat sa reuseasca ceva de genul asta gen zbor spre luna sau marte, cel mult zboruri turistice suborbitale si ceva misiuni de aprovizionare a statiei spatiale. si da, este o zi trista cand niste congresmeni ( fie ei republicani sau democrati) ajung ultimul bastion de aparare al zborurilor spatiale cu echipaj uman.

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QUOTE(Blakut @ 10 Mar 2010, 11:10 AM) *
Mi se pare normal sa tinteasca spre Marte, folosind experienta acumulata in timpul programului Apollo.

Eperienta acumulata in timpul programului Apollo i-a convins atat pe rusi cat si pe americani ca au nevoie de o statie orbitala si-au facut-o. Amartizarea presupune riscuri mai mari, o baza permanenta pe luna le-ar prinde bine in caz ca ar aparea probleme, mai ales ca acolo gravitatia este mult mai mica iar acum ca au gasit apa poate fi un motiv in plus.


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Similitudine sau nu in mandatul lui Obama revolutia demografica pare sa aiba succes.


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Trendul nu a aparut de la alegerea lui Obama ci exista de multa vreme. N-are legatura cu actualul presedinte. Gurile rele ar spune ca poate dimpotriva, Obama va face ca in SUA sa se traiasca atat de prost incat mexicanii nu vor mai forta granita... rolleyes.gif


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Daca vorbim de trend ai dreptate dar eu vorbeam de un succes al revolutiei demografice, care se intampla sa fie in mandatul lui Obama, fara alte conotatii. Nu cred ca mexicanii nu vor mai trece granita sau nu se vor mai imultii, din contra este un semnal pentru negrii si hispanici sa continue in acest ritm daca vor sa rastoarne balanta in favoarea lor. Pe cand un presedinte USA cu sombrero?


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cand un presedinte USA cu sombrero?

nu ar fi un bai , acum e un presedinte cu camasa hawaiiana.

america e de multicel color-blind si da sanse egale tuturor raselor. diferenta este cand un minoritar face o prostie majora si o da ca este oropsit rasial, atunci se schimba calimera.

il asteptam si pe o sa joace cartea rasiala , va fi caraghios de urmarit. mai ales ca acum justitia ii este ostila pe fata.


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din contra este un semnal pentru negrii si hispanici sa continue in acest ritm daca vor sa rastoarne balanta in favoarea lor

Tu crezi ca pe aia ii freaca grija sa faca multi copii ca sa schimbe balanta demografica in vreo doua sute de ani? Oamenii nu de-asta fac copii. Exact aceeasi teorie o expuneai si pe topicul cu tiganii, si ti-am combatut-o si acolo.

Ce, tu daca decizi sa ai un copil la asta te gandesti, la proportiile diferitelor etnii in Romania peste nu stiu cata vreme?!

Pur si simplu cei cu nivel de trai mai scazut fac mai multi copii (includem aici nivel de educatie mai scazut, acces mai slab la mijloace contraceptive, la surse de informare etc), este un fapt, nu-i o "conspiratie a saracilor", ci asa actioneaza oamenii in general: cu cat are sanse mai mici de succes fiecare individ in parte, cu atat mai multi urmasi va avea.


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diferenta este cand un minoritar face o prostie majora si o da ca este oropsit rasial, atunci se schimba calimera.

adica ce vrei sa zici? ca-i sar in aparare o multime de ONG-uri sau ca se aplica legea?

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Exact aceeasi teorie o expuneai si pe topicul cu tiganii, si ti-am combatut-o si acolo.

Poti sa o combati cat vrei, eu raman la parerea mea si a liderilor tiganilor care au adus vorba despre asa ceva, iar daca vrei am sa introduc si un element religios, pe care se bazeaza simplitatea problemei, asa ca sa ai ce comenta.
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Ce, tu daca decizi sa ai un copil la asta te gandesti, la proportiile diferitelor etnii in Romania peste nu stiu cata vreme?!

Nici chiar asa, dar daca fac un copil, doi sau trei ma gandesc la familie, dar fara sa constientizez musai ca familia este caramida societatii, a natiei mele, ceea ce este adevarat pana la urma sau ma insel?
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..... este un fapt, nu-i o "conspiratie a saracilor", ci asa actioneaza oamenii in general: cu cat are sanse mai mici de succes fiecare individ in parte, cu atat mai multi urmasi va avea.

exista si tigani bogati care au cate 3-8 copii, la fel cum exista si negrii sau hispanici, mai degraba as accepta ca sunt mai prolifici decat noi decat ca nu sunt constienti de ceea ce fac.



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