QUOTE(abis @ 19 Jun 2014, 10:34 AM)
Nu vorbesc despre referendum pentru ca (repet) legislatia germana nu prevedea obligativitatea unui referendum.
Asta este conceptul de "democratie reprezentativa", in care cetatenii aleg un parlament care legifereaza...
Una este modelul elvetian, unde se face referendum pentru cam orice, alta este modelul german, unde nu se fac referendumuri, iar cetatenii deleaga parlamentului decizia.
Nu "imi face impresia" ci asta este realitatea: legislatia ucrainiana spunea ca un referendum privind statutul regiunii ar fi trebuit sa aiba loc la nivel national, nu local.
Referendum in RDG nu in RFG.
Si ce spune constitutia Crimeii deoarece Crimeea a devenit Republica autonoma din 1991?!
De cand spune constitutia Ucrainei asa?, ... nu cumva dupa 1991 /1995 ?!
Nu cumva Ucraina a fortat nota din 1991 si de aceea inca de pe atunci a pierdut Crimeea ca judet ea devenind republica cu parlament propriu cu presedinte si prim ministru, ...?!
Nu stiu daca chiar ai citit postarea mea, Sevastopolul nici macar nu apartinea Crimeii ci mai degraba Rusiei si asta legal, de aceea el a fost unificat Rusiei separat.
During the Soviet era, Sevastopol became a so-called "closed city". This meant that any non-residents had to apply to the authorities for a temporary permit to visit the city. It was directly subordinate to the central Russian SFSR authorities rather than the local oblast and later (after 1978) to the Ukrainian SSR administration.[13]
After the Soviet collapse[edit]
The Black Sea Fleet Museum
Following the breakup of the Soviet Union, Moscow refused to recognise Ukrainian sovereignty over Sevastopol as well as over the surrounding Crimean oblast, using the argument that the city was never practically integrated into the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic because of its military status.
On December 11, 1992, the President of Ukraine called the attempt of the Russian deputies to charge the Russian parliament with a task to define the status of Sevastopol as an "imperial disease". On December 17, 1992, the office of the Ukrainian presidential representative in Crimea was created, which caused a wave of protests a month later. Among the protesters who organised the unsanctioned rally were the Sevastopol branches of the National Salvation Front, the Russian Popular Assembly, and the All-Crimean Movement of the Voters for the Republic of Crimea. The protest was held in Sevastopol on January 10 at the Nakhimov Square.
On July 10, 1993, the Russian parliament passed a resolution declaring Sevastopol to be "a federal Russian city". At the time, many supporters of the president, Boris Yeltsin, had ceased taking part in the Parliament's work.[14]
On April 14, 1993, the Presidium of the Crimean Parliament called for the creation of the presidential post of the Crimean Republic. A week later, the Russian deputy, Valentin Agafonov, stated that Russia was ready to supervise the referendum on Crimean independence and include the republic as a separate entity in the CIS. On July 28, 1993, one of the leaders of the Russian Society of Crimea, Viktor Prusakov, stated that his organisation was ready for an armed mutiny and establishment of the Russian administration in Sevastopol. In September, Eduard Baltin accused Ukraine of converting some of his fleet and conducting an armed assault on his personnel, and threatened to take countermeasures of placing the fleet on alert.
In May 1997, Russia and Ukraine signed the Peace and Friendship Treaty, ruling out Moscow's territorial claims to Ukraine.[15] A separate agreement established the terms of a long-term lease of land, facilities, and resources in Sevastopol and the Crimea by Russia.
Vladimir Putin with Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma on board the Black Sea Fleet's flagship, July 2001
The ex-Soviet Black Sea Fleet and its facilities were divided between Russia's Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Naval Forces. The two navies co-used some of the city's harbours and piers, while others were demilitarised or used by either country. Sevastopol remained the location of the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquarters with the Ukrainian Naval Forces Headquarters also based in the city. A judicial row periodically continues over the naval hydrographic infrastructure both in Sevastopol and on the Crimean coast (especially lighthouses historically maintained by the Soviet or Russian Navy and also used for civil navigation support).
Like in the rest of the Crimea, Russian remained the predominant language of the city, although following the independence of Ukraine there was some attempts at Ukrainisation with very little success. The Russian society in general and even some outspoken government representatives never accepted the loss of Sevastopol and tended to regard it as temporarily separated from the homeland.[16]
The WE Youth Political Organisation, which advocated Russian citizenship for Sevastopol residents,[17] published a poll in 2004 claiming "72% of the Sevastopol citizens supported the idea of the independent status of Crimea. The Crimea was then an autonomous Republic within Ukraine. Besides, 95% of the respondents supported the constant stationing of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol even after 2045, when the time of the corresponding agreement between Russia and Ukraine was suppose to end. Also, 100% of those polled favoured the option for citizens of Sevastopol to obtain dual Russian and Ukrainian citizenship. It is notable, however, that of the Sevastopol citizens that expressed a desire to obtain Russian citizenship only 16% was ready to give up the Ukrainian one."[18]
In July 2009, the chairman of the Sevastopol city council, Valeriy Saratov (Party of Regions)[19] stated that Ukraine should increase the amount of compensation it is paying to the city of Sevastopol for hosting the foreign Russian Black Sea Fleet, instead of requesting such obligations from the Russian government and the Russian Ministry of Defense in particular.[20]
On April 27, 2010, Russia and Ukraine ratified the Russian Ukrainian Naval Base for Gas treaty, extending the Russian Navy's lease of Crimean facilities for 25 years after 2017 (through 2042) with an option to prolong the lease in 5-year extensions. The ratification process in the Ukrainian parliament encountered stiff opposition and erupted into a brawl in the parliament chamber. Eventually, the treaty was ratified by a 52% majority vote—236 of 450. The Russian Duma ratified the treaty by a 98% majority without incident.[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol#Af...Soviet_collapse
